Failing to achieve darker tones

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Re: Failing to achieve darker tones

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Thank you. That has been really helpful.

And, yes, an index would be great!

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Brenda wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 10:02 pm And, yes, an index would be great!
One of our members - and my chief test pilot for the videos - made a start... but there's a long way to go........ :oops: :roll:

I'll see what I can do as time allows. ;)
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Re: Failing to achieve darker tones

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Thanks everybody for your suggestions. I'm sorry I didn't come back to the forum earlier but life just got in the way.

Mike :) - I'm pretty sure the main issue is that I don't like very hard surfaces and usually draw straight from the pad. I suppose I'll have to wean myself off that habit. Then I'm probably quite conservative about the amount of pressure I use - being a coloured pencil artist, I tend to allow for multiple layers and work with a very light hand. I did try to use heavy pressure though...

Thanks to your ideas, I can now get down to work again ;)

PS: I have no idea how to quote previous posts in yellow, if anyone can help... :?

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Francoise wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:12 pm I'm pretty sure the main issue is that I don't like very hard surfaces and usually draw straight from the pad. I suppose I'll have to wean myself off that habit.
Preferably, yes. One of the main problems of drawing on a pad is you have to constantly relearn what your pencils can achieve. If you have a surface that's a known constant, such as a drawing board, your pencils will behave exactly the same way every time you use them.

The other main problem is that the sheets in the pad cushion the pressure you apply. With a hard surface under your paper, you'll probably have to use LESS pressure to achieve the same value. Since ALL the pressure will be transferred to your drawing, and not lost in the spongy sheets beneath.
Then I'm probably quite conservative about the amount of pressure I use - being a coloured pencil artist, I tend to allow for multiple layers and work with a very light hand. I did try to use heavy pressure though...
Ultimately, you need to find what works best for you and use that. I can tell you what works for me, but there are always other ways to do anything. All that's essential is that you produce strong darks, where strong darks matter. Otherwise, you'll draw light drawings that always look flat and often lifeless. You need that contrast to make your drawing POP!
PS: I have no idea how to quote previous posts in yellow, if anyone can help...?
Easy-peasy! In the top right-hand corner of any post you want to reply to, click QUOTE icon (looks like two inverted commas "). Then you can edit the quote to however much of it you want to use before replying.
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Re: Failing to achieve darker tones

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Mike, I think that posting an index to all the videos and where they are would be fabulous.

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DMeegs wrote: Mon Sep 08, 2025 9:49 pm Mike, I think that posting an index to all the videos and where they are would be fabulous.
This is proving to be a problem. I'd love to build an index, but I'm too busy making more videos to index the old ones.

And I know an index is required. I very often have to refer back to older videos while making the new ones - partly to avoid repetition, or to re-use sequences or animations to save time.... ad I have NO IDEA where those sequences are or in WHICH video. And I MADE THEM! :roll:

What I'd ultimately like to do is build an index of Subject, not just video description. That means going through each video to note content and times of various actions - maybe a NEGATIVE DRAWING video might include a section on INDENTING, for example. So that indenting needs to be listed. That should lead to an index where you could look up "indenting" or "dark values" and find ALL the instances of the use of either in ALL the videos. That's what I'm aiming at.

I did that in my main site for the Tutorials section (See FACT FINDER), and began to include video content, but I simply ran out of available time to keep it up to date. But that is my ultimate aim.
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