kwheller wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 12:56 am
JD kept trying to get me "to the dark side" of using charcoal with the argument that using charcoal in my drawings would give me a full range of value which graphite alone can not do (due to the blackness of charcoal).
Yes, JD would.

And I think he's correct... up to a point. He's correct that it looks darker while you're drawing. But, I'd argue that graphite can look as dark once it's been fixed with a matte fixative.
I think the key is the "due to the blackness of charcoal" part. Graphite (pure graphite) is black too, but it's
shiny, and the reflected light dilutes what we see. Where graphite consists of flat sheets, charcoal has irregular grains that scatter light rather than reflect it. Take away the shininess with a matte fixative, and the result is at least similar.
Also - and this conjecture, not known fact - I suspect JD's focus is on
printing. Now charcoal makes sense, because it ensures maximum darkness. And the resulting print doesn't contain either charcoal or graphite, so the two sit together well.
Even using charcoal for pupils in a graphite drawing appears not uniform to me.
Nor me. I agree 100%. In the early days when I was experimenting, I tried to combine graphite and carbon (but never charcoal). To my eye, the two never sat well together. The non-reflective carbon was always a distraction. So, I tried layering carbon with graphite. That worked, but then... why use carbon at all? So, at that point I made a conscious decision to be a graphite purist.
(Your name came up quite a bit (in a good way) since other students had taken workshops from you and JD knew that I was the graphite artist in the group. It was sort of hilarious when JD commented how my black dog looked more gray like graphite, and I wasn't taking advantage of how black the charcoal could go, and instead I put in more texturing than he did.
Ultimately, I think your way of drawing will produce better results for you than JD's.
Now I'll preface this by stating that I think JD
is a master at his craft. But the way he works is not my way. He's very controlled. The use of frisket, for example, means her HAS to know where his boundaries are. And, unlike you and me, he can't change them during the drawing process. JD appears to be concentrating on producing wonderful fixed, carefully planned images. You and I can be far more flexible.
We can invent as we draw, change, adapt, remove, and draw what we FEEL.
And, because we use just the single medium, it means
we can create without breaking our concentration. I'm not sure if I can explain that fully, but we can think and subconsciously draw at the same time - an unbroken mind to hand process. I'm probably doing JD a disservice, but I find his methods too mechanical and pre-planned... even though the results can be spectacular
And that's why I've never regretted deciding to only use graphite. And why I think you "
put in more texturing", simply because you are recreating the dog, one realistic piece at a time - a dog (or whatever the subject is) that's alive in your mind - and not sticking to an overall regimented plan.